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Re: Are you Chinese?

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作者: stone1980 (塔裡的男孩 @LA)

標題: Re: Are you Chinese?

時間: Fri Oct 2 07:41:28 2009





我聽過一種回答是:

I am ethnically Chinese but politically Taiwanese.

或者回答說:Ethnic Chinese

可以參考一下這兩種回答方法


其中Ethnic Chinese的概念

其實就很接近中文用的「華人」一詞


不過我在美國也遇過一些來自越南、馬來西亞、印尼的華人,

他們通常都直接回答說他們是來自XXX國家的Chinese

所以就算回答Chinese 在美國也不代表你一定是中國籍


不過我自己怎麼樣都是回答說我是 Taiwanese

然後順便解釋說 宣稱自己是Taiwanese/Chinese在台灣是很爭議的問題

也跟外國朋友介紹一下台灣的政治議題


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※ 編輯: stone1980 來自: 99.22.207.115 (10/02 07:47)
deviate : 我有一次跟新加坡朋友的爸爸媽媽吃飯 不知道聊到了什麼 10/02 08:10
deviate : 說了類似你們是chinese的話(沒有惡意的 因為他們是華人) 10/02 08:11
deviate : 她爸爸馬上接著說 他們是ethnic chinese 10/02 08:12
a9a99 : 講臺灣人別人就會順便知道你是華人了啊~ 10/02 10:20
salome : 台灣人不只有華人啦.. 10/02 10:54
sleepinggod : 要嘛全用chinese 要嘛全用taiwanese 10/02 11:00
FMZ : I'm chinese, but not a chinaman? XD 10/02 11:31
foxhound1204 : why would you call urself a Chinaman, are you 10/02 12:15
foxhound1204 : stupid? 10/02 12:16
FMZ : please read.. 10/02 12:26
foxhound1204 : read what? 難道你不知道那是有貶意的嗎 10/02 12:54
foxhound1204 : 也許是你寫的文字沒辦法完全讓人看懂 10/02 12:54
FMZ : do you know what "not" means? 10/02 13:01
FMZ : perhaps you should also explain your comment on my IQ? 10/02 13:02
foxhound1204 : 為什麼後面要加問號你可以解釋一下嗎? 10/02 13:09
foxhound1204 : anyway, not trying to start an argument here, so 10/02 13:10
foxhound1204 : just forget about it 10/02 13:10
FMZ : I was giving a suggestion. that's y 10/02 13:16
FMZ : yes, i believe you are not trying to be rude at all =) 10/02 13:18
FMZ : by the way, "chinaman" is not so all negative 10/02 13:19
FMZ : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinaman 10/02 13:19
FMZ : sorry i can't type chinese. my apology 10/02 13:20
laylow : http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chinaman 10/02 13:33
foxhound1204 : considered offensive by modern dictionaries 10/02 13:35
foxhound1204 : nowadays discouraged by Asian American org. 10/02 13:35
foxhound1204 : from your link, wiki is not a good source 10/02 13:36
foxhound1204 : like


I said, it is offensive to the people who 10/02 13:38
foxhound1204 : knows what it means 10/02 13:38
foxhound1204 : anyway, Im trying not to direct away form the OP 10/02 13:40
FMZ : plz don't provide biased info 10/02 13:58
FMZ : paste the whole statement please 10/02 13:58
FMZ : The term has been used without stated offensive intent 10/02 13:58
FMZ : and has also been used as a self-referential archetype by 10/02 13:59
FMZ : authors and artists of Asian descent 10/02 13:59
FMZ : wiki may not be a good source, but the reference is true 10/02 14:00
FMZ : plus, i said it was not "ALL" negative, please read =) 10/02 14:02
Cain : 另外其實要考量到很多人的母語不是英語,對他們而言,聽到 10/02 16:02
Cain : Ethnic Chinese更是一頭霧水= = 在歐洲很多人的英文程度是僅 10/02 16:03
Cain : 止於簡單溝通日常生活所需和旅遊的,ethnic對他們而言是太困 10/02 16:03
Cain : 難的單字 XD 10/02 16:03
siathy : 被稱作chinaman有人覺得很有趣嗎... 10/03 01:24
foxhound1204 : 他大概不是chinaman吧,就不要用聽不懂 一直在辯護 10/03 01:27
foxhound1204 : 懶得跟北七講話 10/03 01:28
siathy : 也有一大堆認為叫中國"支那"沒有貶抑的人.. 10/03 01:33
FMZ : now who's offensive? =) 10/03 08:10
FMZ : man, if you enjoy selective reading, it's up to you 10/03 08:12
FMZ : but offensively telling me not to be offensive 10/03 08:13
FMZ : you are embarrasing yourself, don't you think? 10/03 08:13
FMZ : if you want to be less narrow-minded, you can read the 10/03 08:17
FMZ : rest of wiki's historical usage of this term 10/03 08:19
FMZ : its not "always" offensive (if you don't understand what 10/03 08:20
FMZ : "ALL" means) 10/03 08:20
foxhound1204 : you need to STFU if you know what I mean 10/03 08:22
foxhound1204 : 就說不需要再吵下去了你一直吵 煩耶 10/03 08:24
FMZ : you can stop responding and start reading, reading is good 10/03 08:42
FMZ : btw, i always thought it was a discussion, not a fight 10/03 08:45
iicbm : 好多英文,不想看 10/03 14:17
Realthugz : chinaman用出來就是讓人往帶貶意的地方去想 不要再狡辯 10/03 14:17
Realthugz : 還要為這個字護航


留學留到到腦子壞掉? 10/03 14:18
wellwel : 為什麼要執著於一個問號???



拌嘴的兩個人都很無聊 10/03 14:34
cedric2000 : 對呀 別吵問號了 這樣原PO會難過喔XD 10/03 14:39
wnwangster : 也有一大堆認為叫中國"支那"沒有貶抑的人..sorry我笑了 10/04 00:16
saram : 台巴子也沒有貶義呀....... 10/04 02:33
holoman : 有沒有雙方都懂中文可是要用英文吵的八卦 10/04 11:03
holoman : 我在ptt見過好多次這種狀況了 真的很妙 10/04 11:04
sleepinggod : 上行下效 總統秀英文.....草民也是 10/04 12:08
mwboy : 台式英文 10/04 16:45
a9a99 : 國名後面加個man是歧視用語 不可以用 10/04 17:32
Realthugz : 樓上


沒那麼嚴重啦 10/04 17:56
siathy : 笑啊 10/07 16:31
judelawww : FMZ大不是說他不能打中文嗎:p 要看清楚阿 10/08 23:46